I'm not even straight edge myself, just someone who usually would rather be sober than not, but I find it absolutely ridiculous when someone else who isn't edge tries to goad a straight edge person for ingesting caffeine. I've passed out from a Red Bull before, but I've never heard of someone crashing their car or raping someone because they'd had too much coffee. I mean, it's some horseshit.

People say the darndest things when they’re butt-hurt and anonymous on the Internet.

I feel like the only straightedge vegan kid who absolutely hates Earth Crisis and AFI.

(Sorry, tommyxvx.)

you know nothing about me. who the fuck are you to say i do far worse things. i happen to be a straightedge vegan, like yourself. are you god? because you sure do act like you're god.
Anonymous

Sorry. I was assuming you were some butt-hurt, drug addicted idiot. I should have taken into consideration that you could have been a straightedge idiot.

I’m not sure why you’re so mad, but if someone ingesting caffeine is seriously such an issue to you that you’d get this riled up, you need serious help in better assessing your priorities.

you like to do research, you should know that caffeine is a psychoactive drug. yet you ingest it. therefore, you are not straightedge. now please, call me an ignorant blah blah blah and justify your drug addiction while insulting me, making yourself the high and mighty bullshitter, better than all other mere mortals, near god-status, in fact, to prove your point. please let me know how fucking "uninformed" i am. please generalize all people like me as scumbags and ignoramuses. fucking asshole.
Anonymous

I’m going to be honest: This made me laugh a lot. Then I read it over a second time and laughed again. Not only did you call me a “drug addict” here because I drink Pepsi, but you seem so genuinely angry about it. Haha.

Obviously, you aren’t the first person to mention this and I know perfectly well that, technically, caffeine is a psychoactive stimulant drug with the potential to be physically addictive.

I’m not gonna sweat it, though. If I decided to stop drinking soda today, the only result, if any, would be me having a headache for twenty-four hours; then it would be gone without any further side effects. It is almost impossible to overdose on caffeine, it does not lead to death, it has no ability to effect how you make decisions, it doesn’t disable me from speaking or driving or being myself, and it has almost no negative health effects whatsoever.

If exaggerating the fact that I drink caffeinated soda products helps you cope with the fact that you do far worse things, then so be it. Just know that you’re a fucking idiot.

Ways to have fun without alcohol:

- Do the things you do while drinking, minus the drinking

I’m going to make this into a shirt.

I’m going to make this into a shirt.

Between quitting smoking tobacco and going vegan, assuming you couldnt do both simultaneously for stress-related reasons, which would you suggest come first? Hypothetcally, for yourself and for others.

I’m not sure. Both are really important things to do, as far as environmental concerns and personal health go.

Most cigarettes are tested on animals, anyway, so being vegan would entail quitting cigarettes (or at least switching to one of the rare brands that don’t test on animals).

If you drink and drive, I would honestly prefer you to get in a car accident and die than to ever be able to get behind the wheel drunk again.
Would you, or could you, be friends with somebody who did drugs as long as they respected your lifestyle? Do you have preconceptions about people who do drugs?
Anonymous

I would and am. Half of my friends aren’t even straightedge. For the most part, I don’t reject the possibility of friendship with others based on how they choose to live, nor would I ever allow their shortcomings or unfortunate lifestyle choices cancel out how otherwise great they are. Deal-breakers for me are mostly set at bigotry: I will not befriend racists, sexists, homophobes, or rape apologists.

I personally don’t care whether or not someone, friend or not, “respects” my “lifestyle”. This isn’t a lifestyle; political reasoning aside, it’s common fucking sense. There is nothing anyone could possibly say from a logical, objective perspective in opposition of straightedge or sobriety, whereas there is plenty one could say about drug usage that no one could ever argue.

I have plenty of preconceptions, sure. I pity people who have to drink and do drugs to have fun. I think they’re making shitty decisions and lack a certain self-respect that people who abstain from drugs and alcohol happen to maintain. I think smoking is disgusting and I feel really bad for the people addicted to tobacco and nicotine because they are severely harming their bodies and spending a shit-ton of money per month. I think people who do drugs and drink are boring to an extent; if they were more creative, fun, and open to the wonders that life naturally presents to us, they wouldn’t need synthetic enhancements to their nights with friends. I think they’re all more or less sheep, too; I highly doubt that a person would naturally want to fuck their minds and bodies up in exchange for momentary euphoria and temporary retardation if they didn’t grow up with drug culture being praised and tabooed all around them from birth onward.

I still give everyone a shot, though. The people I know who happen to make the shitty decision to drink, smoke, and do drugs are amazing people with unfortunate habits and addictions. One doesn’t outweigh the other and doing those things does not make someone a bad person; it just makes them slightly disgusting and stupid.

Alcohol: Helping boring people pretend they know how to have fun for centuries.
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